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chinabootes


Registered: Feb 03
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We Chinese will launch our manned spacecraft this Oct, if you are interested in it , we can talk about it and I will keep you informed of what's going on.
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ASEI


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Really? That is somewhat interesting. What sort of vehicle is it? How many crew-members, how much leg-room? What does it use to navigate? What does it use to maneuver? Just a little curious.

02/09/03 06:40
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chinabootes


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This is an American press report.

BEIJING (AP) -- China revealed plans Thursday to become the world's third space-traveling nation by launching a manned capsule sometime this year, an expensive prize for a government hungry to showcase its progress and increase its global prestige.
Such an expedition would represent both a scientific watershed and a public relations victory for China's military-linked space program. It came as the latest unmanned Chinese craft, Shenzhou IV, orbited the Earth for a fourth day -- a trip described after it began Monday as a direct precursor to a manned flight.

The next mission, Shenzhou V, will contain at least one ``taikonaut,'' the Chinese version of an astronaut, according to a report from China News Service, a government news agency aimed at Chinese speakers abroad.

It quoted Yuan Jie, director of the Shanghai Aerospace Bureau, as saying the flight will take place during the second half of 2003. Yuan's office confirmed the report Thursday.

``Shenzhou V will be manned,'' said an official there, reached by telephone. He refused to give his name but quoted Yuan as saying the flight would be a ``breakthrough in China's manned aerospace history.''

Only the United States and Russia -- in its current incarnation and as the Soviet Union -- have sent human beings into space on their own. Astronauts from other nations have been in space, though only by collaborating with either Washington or Moscow.

Astronauts picked from the ranks of fighter pilots in China's air force have been training for several years to make the first flights into space. Any such pioneers would immediately become legendary figures in China, whose propaganda machine is always on the lookout for new demonstrations of patriotism.

``The short-term goal is to send Chinese into space. The grand vision for the future is to explore space. Both are inspiring to the Chinese people,'' said Huang Chunping, chief commander of rocketry for the Shenzhou project, quoted by the official Xinhua News Agency.

It wasn't immediately clear how many fliers would be aboard the Chinese mission. The news agency's dispatch used a Chinese character that could be interpreted as singular or plural.

``China's Shenzhou V will send a person into space in the latter half of this year,'' CNS said in the dispatch on its Web site. That suggested the next Shenzhou launch would be the manned flight and that there would be no more test flights.

The current craft, Shenzhou IV, was orbiting the Earth on Thursday, midway through what state media say will be a seven-day mission. Chinese officials who supervised the launch have been talking for days of an imminent manned space flight.

The government has long been enthusiastic about its space program, which it has cast as a symbol of technological progress in a nation ascendant -- much as the United States did with NASA's Apollo launches during the ``space race'' of the 1960s against the Soviet Union.

But that self-promotion has been tempered by the secrecy still prevalent among China's leaders. Much of the space program's research is overseen by the military, and launches -- Monday's included -- haven't been announced in advance, possibly out of fear something might go very publicly wrong.

In a rare glimpse into its taikonaut program, the newspaper China Space News posted a photograph on its Web site of two men in space suits and offering what might be the first public view of the faces of China's future space travelers.

The photo showed the men with their helmets removed; one was grinning broadly. By contrast, the few pictures released earlier showed them from behind or with their features obscured by helmets.

Earlier this week, President Jiang Zemin called for the continuing development of the program as he rhapsodized about the Shenzhou IV launch. He called it a ``great victory'' and implied that manned flights weren't far off.

Jiang encouraged all involved to ``redouble their efforts and work in a pioneering spirit to make more contributions to the peaceful development of the outer space,'' the official Xinhua News Agency said.

Zhang Qingwei, president of the state-run China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp., which manufactured the capsule, was quoted as saying earlier this week that a manned flight was ``just around the corner'' if no problems were reported during the current Shenzhou flight.

The Shenzhou IV, which blasted off before dawn Monday from a rocket base in the Gobi desert, carried all the equipment for manned flight, the government has said. It says the mission is testing life-support and other systems.

Its flight was the fourth for a Shenzhou capsule -- whose name means ``Sacred Vessel'' -- and the second in less than 10 months, signaling an increased pace of launches.



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chinabootes


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Arrow This is the Shenzhou family former spacecraft Shenzhou 2 structure

http://www.gisdevelopment.net/news/2001/jan/china.htm
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Thumbs up Shenzhou V

Here is a link to another webpage where, co-incidently, I was reading about this earlier today.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-03e.html

Good luck!
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02/09/03 20:06
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R. J. Grasser
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Hi Andy: I am more than a little concerned about PRC...

manned space flight program. They dont have the experience with orbital vehicles that are reliable.

Having pilots with thousands of hours of flight time and training at the Cosmodrome is not going to negate hardware/software failure. Either way; your dead.

Item 2... Why does PRC want to waste its money on MSFP when it could be better spent on feeding its Billions of people and improving their general economy? Is this just another ego-trip?

PRC should study the French/Euro model more closely. You can reap the profits and the experience by commercially launching satellites at a highly competitive rate without killing people.

While it would be a welcome new member to the space industry that can share in programs like the ISS; PRC needs to address its real priorities medium and long term.

The former USSR lost many cosmonauts lives in their un-bridled programs to "beat" the US in our space programs to their peril. Its not worth it for PRC........

Thats my opinion as an ex-NASA employee directly involved in our MSF (manned space flight program).

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rob uk
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hmm... china have managed to do it on a buget too $2.3 billion pretty cheap for a manned space flight from start to finish.As for spending the money on feeding its starving popullation id have to agree R J but at the same time during the 60s when the USA was spending billons of dollars on its race to the moon was everyone in america going to bed with a full stomach..? NASA now has a anuual budget of billions yet there are still many people in the US living in abject poverty well below what most of the developed world would call a resonable standard of living.I admire all that mankind has echieved thought its space programs but at the same time i cant help wondering how an alien species would judge us if it watched us spending billions every year on a space program that since 69 has told us that frogs realy dont like space while millions die every year for the sake of a few cents
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02/10/03 00:52
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chinabootes


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In my opinion

Well, we China still a developing country, comparing with the US and other developed countries we are really poor, however, as the third largest country in the world, we have to race on some hightech item such as the manned space programme. You know nowaday if a large country want to survive you really need to have some great items, perhaps western countries can not understand why Chinese rather use a big sum of money on space programme than feed its people, I agree it has the mean that the leaders want to gain their achievement in their post but in other way, they are working on the programme most Chinese want. Also you should acknowledge that such a programme has significant promote to all the field of a large country, I am sure here in this forum many friends can understand us and support it.

I am sure that we do have the ability to send Chinese astronauts to the orbit and soon we will built our own space station and make the dream that send Chinese astronauts to the space come true.


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I just hope that the US recognizes the military potential of space sometime soon. People may try to white-wash it or deny it under some utopian daydream, but someday, be it 50, 100, or 200 years from now, there will be star wars. We should try to be as capable as possible on the orbital front then.

As for manned space-flight, it is always going to be perceived as "extra" next to a good deal of other shorter-term goals, but if not for "unnecessary" basic research, we would not know the world to be round or the earth to be a planet! If not for the study of radio-activity, we might never have perceived that nuclear energy even existed. Eventually, manned spaceflight/space-colonization will be the future of humanity, though it might have no practical use at the moment.

02/10/03 02:18
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chinabootes


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Yes, the technique can be useful in military area.

But we Chinese have no hostility. In fact, most Chinese are friendly to foreigners, however, the world is not peaceful so any country has its right to defense itself. Does any country develop their economy and technique just to civilian purpose?

Personally, I have many American friends who care about me and I love all Americans and people in other countries who treat us as friends.

I think people who love astronomy will always regard the whole world as a big family and I think so. I am happy I have many friends from different countries and in different skin colors. I really hope some day we all live in one country called the earth.
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