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Platinum Rhymer


Registered: Aug 03
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can anyone give me some info on this....is it bigger than the milky way
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Pete


Registered: Aug 02
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Sure...


Go to http://www.google.com (or .ca if you wish), enter Andromeda Galaxy. More info than you'd ever want! Oh, don't taqke me the wrong way Google however is a great way to get to a lot of information.

One of my gaffs is I said that "Andromeda is our neraest galaxy". Buzzzap! Wrong! Nearest large/major galaxy would be more correct. Mind you someone went on about it not even being in the local group... so far I've seen it as part of the local group. For the record my research so far has the Sagitarius Dwarf as the closest.
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08/20/03 22:11
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Andy Mac
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Pete's suggestion on Google is a good one, Platinum.

But to answer your specific question in brief, yes, the Andromeda Galaxy is bigger than our Milky Way (it contains at least twice as many stars I believe). It is part of our local group of galaxies, with the Milky Way coming in second.
Andromeda is about 2.5 - 2.9 million light years away, so the light we see from it tonight began its journey through space between 2.5 & 2.9 million years ago.

If you live at a dark location & know where to look, it is possible to see this galaxy shining faintly when it is high up, without using any optical aid.

A final point for now. This galaxy is approaching us at speed! I'm not sure how accurate this is, but the following link gives one suggestion as to what may happen once the two galaxies eventually meet.
http://www.thehubbletelescope.com/MilkyWay.html

Hope this helps!


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Platinum Rhymer


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yeah it will colide with us in 5 million years....of course the sun would've exploded already....and the whole solar system burnt
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deliveryman


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The theory above makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and goes against all the evidence we have for an expanding Universe. The Universe is expanding, Einstein said it, and Hubble helped proved it (Hubble Constant). Thus, if the Universe is expanding everything is growing farther apart; including these two galaxies as time progresses. It is apparent the the person that came up with this prediction does not believe in an expanding Universe.
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It is generally accepted that the Andromeda galaxy is moving toward our galaxy. It is also generally accepted that the universe is expanding. This is a NET expansion. Not every single atom in the universe is moving away from every other atom. Not every star is moving away. Also, not every galaxy is moving away.

Most astronomical structures are clumped together in groups. Our Milky Way galaxy is a member of a group of galaxies called the Local Group. Galaxies within this group may be moving toward each, but the net velocity of all mass in the universe is outward.

What this means is that galaxies will continue to clump together. These clumps will come together with other clumps until gravitational acceleration is too small in magnitude to overcome general universal expansion. This will end in either Big Crunch or "heat death".

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here it is in all its glory

http://physics.uwyo.edu/~chip/misc/pics/m31.jpg

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Carlos63uk
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quote:
Originally posted by Platinum Rhymer
yeah it will colide with us in 5 million years....of course the sun would've exploded already....and the whole solar system burnt

Actually - the Sun probably won't explode.

It's mass is below the Chandrasekhar limit, which means it will eventually become a red giant, then a white dwarf.
And it won't begin it's 'red giant' expansion phase for about 5,000 million years.


The Andromeda galaxy is the only major galaxy known to be moving towards us - However, I'm sure I read somewhere that it isn't moving DIRECTLY towards the Milkyway galaxy - and the two galaxies will pass fairly close, but will miss each other, then slowly move apart.
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Styrerra


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quote:
Originally posted by deliveryman
The theory above makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and goes against all the evidence we have for an expanding Universe. The Universe is expanding, Einstein said it, and Hubble helped proved it (Hubble Constant). Thus, if the Universe is expanding everything is growing farther apart; including these two galaxies as time progresses. It is apparent the the person that came up with this prediction does not believe in an expanding Universe.

It's not a theory. It has been detected and redetected over and over again.


What is in theory though is why it is moving towards us. And other theories on what will happen.

It is indicated other galaxies have begun to move toward each other as well and there are instances where galaxies have intertwined with each other to create bigger galaxies.

What is also being investigated is the Milky Way, as we know it, may have already intertwined with another galaxy long ago. The after effects are the spiral arms.

The hubble has taken pictures of galaxies which have meshed together just recently (and by recently I mean millions of years) but are still straighting themselves out, considering the millions of years it takes to eventually regain composure.



And don't worry about the stars colliding, the space is so enormus between colliding galaxies that it would be very seldom stars would collide while the galaxy intertwine. New stars would be born, that is being discovered in other hubble quests. And perhaps even some existing ones will fall into black holes.


some links
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1997/34/


[Edited by Styrerra on 01/17/05 at 01:54]
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stefan


Registered: Jul 05
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I wont know but i am sure that it is posible for the glaxie to move toward us, the expanding of the universeis just a theory, i believe somewhat in it but you really cant say things will move appart, its expanding NOT streching, and if it was sretching only some things will move appart as it will move away from the middle. another fact is that f the universe was stretching...well it cant because everything isnt linked to each other, space in between it is nothin it wont keep htings together so if one part is moving the other wont, qand this IS what happens when something stretches, what was actually meant byt the theory is that its growing
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